Tuesday, December 12, 2006

But he only had a knife!!

UPDATE: PLEASE SEE COMMENTS FOR THIS POST. The description of the photos is inaccurate per Snopes.com and another officer who also received the email.

This email has been circulating in the cop community, and I thought it important enough to post. Please note: I am uploading the pictures but you must click on them to see them. THEY ARE GRAPHIC IMAGES. That's your warning. If you click and are sickened, not my fault.

I'm reposting the email as it arrived in our inbox. I don't think that I'd have worded it the same, but here it is:

The photos are of an officer trained in hand-to-hand combat.
The officer thought, due to his size and fighting skills, he could disarm a knife wielding aggressor.

Here is why I am forwarding these on.

To all the idiots out there who always say, "Why did the cops have to shoot him?
He only had a (insert your choice of weapons here, i.e. knife, bat, club. whatever).?
He didn't have to be shot.

To that, I respond, "tough crap ... shoot'em".

If an officer tells you to drop your weapon, just drop it.
If you're a retard, stupid, on crack, mental or just "scared" ... too bad.?

No one deserves what this cop got for just doing his job.?
If you've got a knife, then you should die ... period.

This is vivid proof of how deadly people who are "only" armed with a knife can be.

Some of the public think that officers should try to disarm someone armed with a knife but anyone who has had training in knife fighting will tell you - even if you win you are going to get cut. Keep this in the back of your mind when confronting someone armed with an edged weapon.

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Anonymous said...

It's actually not a police officer. That email was circulating as an airman in a bar fight. It's believed to be the result of inmates fighting inside a prison.

Here's the snopes article:


wil said...

Decades ago the was a movie called The New Centurians, based on Joseph Wambaugh's book of the same name.

In the movie, old-timer George C. Scott is the FTO for Stacey Keach. The discussion turns to the use of force.

"If they use their fists, use your stick.

If they use a knife, use your gun."

Can't find any fault with THAT reasoning.

FroneAmy said...

Here's a direct quote from an officer we know who responded to the email, CCing all recipients:

Actually I believe those are from LA county jail. There are many more, my Sgt's brother works at
the agency where the assault happened. I will try and get them and forward them on. If some boys can do that with a shank in the pen.....Good statement on the
"Why'd we shoot..."

The description may not be accurate but the damage is real.

Red said...

Whatever the cause of these photos your point is right on.
What an eye opener.

Anonymous said...


Hope you don't think I was trying to be an a-hole by pointing that out.

FroneAmy said...

No, actually I'm pretty glad you did. I'm usually the first person to check the veracity of emails on snopes.com or truthorfiction.com and to be honest I'm a little ashamed I didn't this time. Plus, the email from the other officer also disproving the identity of the photos was in our inbox before I posted this. Whoops.

I'm usually the a-hole in my family for replying (to all recipients, no less) to my mother-in-law's emails and shooting down their latest "get rich by forwarding" or health scare, or who knows what stupid email of the day is circulating.

Is it demented to get a little glee out of disproving those emails?
Thanks for catching that, B.

Brent said...

The training that I have received is that if a suspect with an edged weapon (knife) is within 21 feet of you, then you are in danger. That's when you need to pull the trigger. I've always followed that advise.

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